Pit bulls attack boy
30 May 2010
RS
47 Comments
A pair of pit bulls were on the loose Friday in downtown Elgin. One attacked a boy. Both dogs were shot dead by Elgin police officers.
Via the Daily Herald:
Officers had already been tracking reports of two stray dogs on the near east side of the city when the dogs were spotted approaching the park, Elgin police Sgt. Dennis Hood said.
According to the report, a 9-year-old boy was bitten by one of the dogs. When one of the responding officers moved forward to interrupt the attack, the dog then turned from the boy and lunged toward the officer, who shot it.
The second dog then began circling the officers and lunged toward the second officer, who then shot it.
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Good thing they weren’t Poodles or this could have been really ugly.
Let’s see.
2006. There were 33 fatalities in the ENTIRE country that were dog related. NOT pit bull related, DOG related.
ONE in the STATE of Illinois.
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html
2006. There were 13,470 deaths related to DUIs in the country. 582 were in Illinois
http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics-2006.html
So Mr. Priggie is going to push for a law that will divert police resources from things such as DUIs to worrying about pit bulls.
If Mr. Priggie doesn’t get the fact that his priorities are screwed up, perhaps the VOTERS need to explain it to him.
People, People, People….
Don’t you remember the City Council’s commentary earlier this year regarding Breed Specific Legislation against Pit Bulls? You were told/asked to keep a tight rein on your pooches and if there was one more incident involving an attack there would be new consideration given to legislation banning Pit Bulls from Elgin and/or placing sever restrictions on those who have one already. Why can’t you listen and heed a good warning? I’m afraid the fight will be brought up again and what defense is available now? Thank you for making this all necessary.
Paul
Evidently the owner was located and she’s been ticketed for not following village ordinances. She has a court date later this month. Her dogs were supposedly caged and in a fenced in yard but “magically” escaped. All the reports I’ve read said the dogs were laying in the grass in a park and then suddenly the boy received minor bites to his wrist. What’s the entire story? I’m sure the part that was left out was that maybe this kid saw the dogs laying there and walked up to pet them. If that’s the case, maybe that parent should be fined for stupidity for letting his child just approach stray dogs. Do humans just walk up to random people and start punching them, unprovoked? Nope. So why is it assumed that dogs think differently? Dogs do not attack people unless they’re provoked and sense danger. This is absolutely the biggest disappointment. Punish the deed…not the breed. Placing restrictions on one breed won’t stop the problem. The people that will actually follow the law aren’t the ones who need stricter regulations! Start by eliminating the behavior of the owners.
You are assuming there was ANYTHING left out of the story. The police witnessed the entire event so unless they are lying NO ONE reached out to touch a dog.
You want the kids parents to be fined for stupidity? Every kid under the age of 18 would have to pay a fine for stupidity. Or, do you just want the parents of any child who pets a dog to be fined? What???
The boy did not “punch” the dog, the kid was bitten “unprovoked”!
It’s a mental illness when anyone feels the rights of a pet supercede the rights of a human. I want to see what kind of dog the pit bull owner buys next to replace these two darling babies.
When I was a young lad my father always told me to never approach a dog without asking the owner first and to also never run around dogs as this tends to excite them. What has ever happened to this sage advice? I have experienced numerous children running around my dog as I walked her in parks, etc. Fortunatly nothing ever happened but I was always prepared in the event my girl became excited. Yes, this is an example of kids acting stupid around dogs and perhaps the kind of stupidity Nichole was referring to. The responsibility of avoiding problems with dogs lies with all parties involved. The dog owner/handler needs to be prepared for any problem and parents need to educate their children about dogs.
Nobody is saying the police officers are liars. It’s just that non-mentally ill folks have started to realize our local papers do not report events in a complete, objective manner.
Mr. Boxcar, Please, Please don’t bring up issues of Mental Illness on this blog with your name attached! Everyone and anyone on this blog knows for some time that you have several issues of your own. You appear over time to be an older smart man? Therefore, don’t throw stones in YOUR glass house!
“It’s a mental illness when anyone feels the rights of a pet supercede the rights of a human.”
Take some time and think about that. Sounds like a pretty reasonable statement to me. How would you like to to live next to someone who disagrees? Not me.
PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED LETTER TO THE EDITOR:
Living in a large suburban ‘city’ like Elgin, it was only a matter of time before an incident involving a pit bull, or pit bull-like dog, made headlines.
The incident in Festival Park was horrific, for the child who was bitten, for the on-lookers, and for the police officers forced to shoot the animals. However, it needs to be treated for what it is, an isolated incident involving two loose dogs. By happenstance, the dogs were pit bull-type dogs. This incident would have, and should have, drawn the same attention had the dogs been of any breed.
This dreadful occurrence didn’t happen because the dogs were pit bulls. It happened because the dog owners, no matter how much they loved their pets, were irresponsible pet owners, leaving their dogs unattended in an out-door kennel, regardless of how secure they believed it to be. No fault should be centered on the police officers, for doing their jobs, protecting the citizens of Elgin in a public park.
The dog owners have been cited for having dogs-at-large and failing to have their dogs’ tags properly displayed. These citations are justified. Responsible dog owners, of any breed, keep their dogs from running loose and have rabies tags on their pets at all times.
The City Council and Mayor Shock have listened to their voting constituents in the past, and enacted a fair and strong Animal Control Ordinance that allows for harsh punishments of any breed of dogs, and their owners, for failure to comply. I implore them to continue to being fair, by punishing the irresponsible pet owners, and allow the newly-enacted ordinance to work as it is written.
While it is an over-used slogan, it continues to be the prevailing sentiment; ‘Punish the deed, not the breed’
Maura Wood Maschinski
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/northnorthwest/ct-x-n-elgin-pit-bull-update-20100604,0,3993031.story
Thank you, again, to all our city council members and our Mayor, for their continued willingness to listen to their voting body, and allow this ordinance to work, as it was written. Come on, people!! Take care to follow the basic responsible dog owner rules, and keep our pets and each other safe!
I have heard enough of this argument to know one thing and that one thing is the only way to help stop these pit bull attacks is to ban them. Prige wanted to ban new pit bulls coming into Elgin and make the existing ones have to be licensed. That is a smart plan. It disrupts no household with a pit bull except the license part which is minimal. It also stops more pit bulls from coming in. No license on your pit bull? You lose it AND you get fines. Period. Full disclosure.
Will someone please tell me how this new ordinance would have even helped a little bit in PREVENTING this attack on a little boy? It would not have done a damn thing except make the city of Elgin richer with steeper fines. AND, that’s ONLY if the Senorita who owns these two dogs pays the fines! Who wants to bet she will move out first before paying the fines?
According to this STUPID owner, who, by the way, had NO shots for these two killer dogs, someone let her dogs out of their cages and out of her fence with a hole in it.
Stupid people and thugs and bullies who own pit bulls do stupid things and don’t care about the punishment so, once again, tell me how this new law would have helped prevent this case, even a little bit?
Boxcar,
Two comments.
In your one post you complain about someone of assuming that the kid punched the dog, etc. Okay, I’ll go along with you on that one.
However, you then turn around and assume that the attack was unprovoked. Given what has been printed in the various newspapers, I have not seen anything that substantiates that position either.
Funny, you then admit that Prigge’s law would not have prevented this incident, but then say that his law should be passed and use other pejoratives to describe these dogs.
If you’d check the website that I reference above, you’ll see that there was ONE fatality, never determined WHY that dog bit, in Illinois. 33 for the entire country.
There were over 40 fatalities for the same year for skateboarding accidents. If you want to focus on fatalities why not outlaw skateboards?
Prigge’s law would NOT reduce bites, or fatalities (which Elgin hasn’t had one in the last two DECADES or more) whatsoever. What it would do is to have these folks switch to mutts or other big dogs. That has been proven in every country that has enacted these types of laws.
To characterize everyone who owns these dogs the way that you have shows how little knowledge you have about this breed.
I’m so tired of people advocating on behalf of pitbulls. They are known to be a dangerous breed, and capable of destroying a person or child’s life with little if any provocation.
The danger is compounded when idiots own them, which sadly more often than not is the case. The city of Elgin is already over run with scumbags, allowing them to possess a deadly weapon that has a mind of it’s own is pure stupidity.
As a parent myself I can’t even imagine what it would be like to see my child be attacked.
Any dog can be dangerous - this isn’t a breed specific characteristic. As you said, the danger is compounded when idiots own “them.” “Them” is ANY dog. I don’t appreciate being categorized as a scumbag, a stupid person, a thug or a bully (Boxcar), either. I have a PhD and I teach for a University. I adopted two dogs that were rescued from abusive situations. One of them was highly abused - and when I think about his story it makes me sick to my stomach and sadder than you can imagine. They happen to be pit bulls. Pit bulls that I have taken in and worked with (while professionally guided) to overcome any trust issues they have. I’m responsible. I take care of my dogs and I do not appreciate people telling me that because OTHER people are irresponsible, I need to treat MY dogs differently. Judge the dog on the dog’s individual action. Just as you would want your pet of choice to be judged.
No breed specific ordinance would have changed the outcome at Festival Park, or any incident in the future. If you don’t follow laws, you’re not going to follow a local ordinance, either. At the very least, we could license all dogs in Elgin. It’s another enforcement tool, as well as an identification tool if a dog is loose. As Tony from elgin2030 said, I’d happily pay $10/year to keep a certain council member’s mouth shut. Especially if the funds are earmarked for additional animal control personnel?
http://elgin2030.com/Joomla/
Irony. It’s all over the place here. Pit bull devotees love the idea of licensing all dogs because it lumps their breed into the same pool as good breeds that do not kill people. It’s a bump in their status. It also financially punishes owners of good breeds who now have to buy a license for the deeds of a bad breed-pit bulls. Isn’t that what we hear from pit bull owners? “Don’t punish the good owners?” That’s exactly what licensing all dogs would do if started now in Elgin.
Bad people will never register their dogs. They don’t get their dogs rabies shots, as in this case. They don’t obey any laws. No matter what law you make the bad owner will never comply. Who knows, some people who can afford the fee won’t do it anyway. So, then, how does licensing all dogs stop pit bulls from attacking? It doesn’t. It just gets money out of owners of good breeds of dogs. That is why a total ban is needed of these monsters.
What evidence exists showing Elgin needs another animal control officer, other than comparing the number to what other towns have? How does one determine that anyway? Work load? Back log of cases?
It’s all for naught anyway as in today’s Trib, Prigge said this attack has not moved the other councilmen to change the ordinance. So it looks like the pit bulls will still be on the loose only this time the fines for an attack will be more money (as if they’ll be paid) and will HOPEFULLY make an owner (if ever located) claim his dog is dangerous. Imagine an owner of a attacking pit bull having to abide by more rules. Ain’t gonna happen, folks.
Yippee! I feel safer, don’t you?
Boxcar, I do own good dogs, YOU just don’t like the breed they are. They’ve never bit anyone, nor have they killed anyone. They’ve never even growled at anyone - they only meet strangers with tail wags, despite their past experiences.
As for the staff size of Animal Control in Elgin (being, one), and the magnitude of this issue in Elgin, along with the new ordinance in place - I’m sure funding a second one could only help your concerns. I’d rather have Animal Control dedicated to full-time enforcement of the new ordinance than officers. A little pro-active enforcement could prevent incidents from occurring with ANY dog. I’d like to leave officers to Elgin’s REAL crime problems (of which we may have a few, in case you haven’t noticed). I know, it is rather broad thinking of me.
If anyone from City Council is checking in - I just want to thank the six who ultimately approached this topic with a level-headed approach.
As I suspected, there is no apparent evidence showing Elgin even needs a second animal officer, just speculation and hope from pit bull owners that IF there were two animal officers THEY would feel better about themselves. I understand now. Isn’t it possible that with this new ordinance the need for an animal officer would be decreased? I mean, afterall, won’t everyone obey the new law? More compliance equals less cops, right?
Protecting the citizens of Elgin from crime regardless if it is from a pit bull or a mass murderer IS the job of the police. Let’s have the animal officer chase lost and barking dogs and let the regular police handle life threatening situations especially if it comes from pit bulls.
Prigge brought this issue up AND got majority support for it. Then they dropped it but promised to bring it up again if there was another attack. There was an attack. This time the rest of the councilman didn’t support it. Democracy. Time to wait for another attack and listen to the rhetoric of blaming others.
If Prigge had majority support, it would have passed. Democracy. He did not. And a BSL ordinance would have been extremely expensive to enforce - particularly when you include the costs of the litigation that would have ensued. Again - no point in arguing with someone who can’t hear what other people are saying above the sound of his own words.
“I don’t appreciate being categorized as a scumbag, a stupid person, ”
Truth hurts!
“Any dog can be dangerous ”
Provide documentation that chihuahua’s kill people.
“No breed specific ordinance would have changed the outcome at Festival Park, ”
Banning pitbulls wouldn’t prevent pitbill attacks! Okay. Outlawing murder doesn’t prevent murder either but the solution isn’t to not have laws prhibiting murder.
Laurie Faith, if you are going to advertise you and your HUSBAND’S foul-mouthed and hateful videos on YouTube with a direct link here, please at least refer to him as your husband instead of just “Tony from elgin2030″ and use your real name or one of the many aliases you use on blogs. C’mon, why give him another complex?
Personally I like GibbyPHD the best followed by Gibster in 2nd place.
I don’t know Laurie, though I do know of her. I happen to be a male, and I find the videos amusing. It might be shocking that more than one person has this point of view, I’m sure, but you shouldn’t make assumptions about identity on the internet. Many people are in jail for just such assumptions. ;) Sometimes, there is no arguing with irrational and illogical people. Some will always find it easier to just educate through a google search. Others actually enjoy the study of the reasons behind issues. We look for a bigger meaning. I know it can be lost on those who choose to educate the easy way. No point in arguing with people who go through life with a myopic perspective. So, with that, I hope you all enjoy your weekend.
Sure, Gibby, sure.
It’s Gibster, GibbyPhD aka Laurie Faith here. Glad to see people are using Rick’s Elginite.org site again - although I’ve been enjoying his photos of structures around town as of late (RS - you’re always great at capturing the good of our town!). Alas, life has been busy the past 2-weeks and I haven’t had time to come on here to troll the boards and see what’s up.
The pit bull incident in Festival Park is sad and unfortunate for ALL involved, officers, dogs, children, witnesses, etc. The story recounted first in the Daily Herald, then Courier and finally Tribune have varied much on the events that occurred to “drastically escalate” to the level of 2 family dogs (under the age of 24 months) actually being shot at point-blank range by officers trying to protect 100+ spectators. This is a debate that either side cannot win for what happened this day, after all - to my knowledge, not one of us were there to witnesses it. So we have to trust in our police force that they acted in their best interests to protect themselves and the public this day.
It will be interesting non-the-less to see how well the new Animal Control Ordinance works for Elgin. It only went into effect on June 1st, AFTER this incident and I agree with the Mayor and Councilman Kaptain that we need to give it a fair shot to work before jumping to conclusions and trying to bring BSL into the picture for Elgin. The new ordinance targets the irresponsible dog owners, regardless of breed and will allow our police force to take action to prevent any further incidents with the general public.
That’s my 2-cents.
- LF
More like 1 cents. Bla Bla Yawn!
You are an idiot….
How much simpler life would be, if we all felt comfortable enough in our convictions, to use our real names…….I know, WaWaWaWaitaMinute, that’s a difficult concept for some to wrap thier thoughts around…….
In the meantime, I hope everyone had a lovely weekend, as I did!
-Maura
“if we all felt comfortable enough in our convictions, to use our real names…….”
It’d be nice if we didn’t have to go through extensive security checks at the airport too, but after 9/11 we found that wasn’t for the best. People who don’t even know us want to kill us! I sure don’t need pit bull owners, psychopaths or convicted former elected officials doing drive by shootings at my house!
But I would like to put a face to the poster above named Nichole. She doesn’t seem to have any problem with the owner of the pitbulls in question. Nor any problem with pitbulls running loose. Nor even any problem with the pitbulls biting small children. No, clearly her biggest problem here is with the small children who, she claims without any evidence whatsoever, provoked the pitbulls to attack them. She even goes as far as to suggest the parents of the bitten children should be fined!!!
What a society eh! We can’t profile the people by their known terrorist affiliations. We can’t profile dog breeds by their known propensity to kill people. Nevertheless, it would be nice to put a face to the wackos amongst us.
Pit bull owners, psychopaths or convicted former elected officials (??) doing drive-by’s by your house if they knew who you were? Seriously? Wow.
“Pit bull owners, psychopaths or convicted former elected officials (??) doing drive-by’s by your house if they knew who you were? Seriously? Wow.”
Yet you continue to hide behind a fictitious name!!! Really seriously wow. The contradiction, hypocrisy, and irony is most certainly amusing.
But then you already know that I understand why you do it even, evidently if you don’t understand.
Too, evidently your not buying into Mauro’s delusion that attainment of nirvana and world peace would break out if we’d all just post under our real full names!
I might ask if you buy into her CLEAR implication that anyone who doesn’t post under their real full names evidences lack of conviction; except I’m sure her CLEARLY implied claim went right over your head.
My only question to that is wouldn’t her convictions be even more serious and righteous if she included her address and phone number too!!! Why not!
Paul, it’s Maura, not Mauro. Mauro being a perfectly acceptable moniker, if you’re an Italian male not an Irish female….
I’m disapointed. I thought everyone knew where i lived and how to reach me… :)
And, since by using my real full name, I’ve gone 100% past most of you, accept my invitation to coffe, and I’ll gladly give you all my real information…..hhhmmmmm, didn’t think so.
Alas, I have to sign off now, to get back to my real life….
As always, using my real name,
-Maura
“it’s Maura, not Mauro. ”
Actually, to me, you are whatever I call you. Mauro very well may be the best it gets. Be happy :)
“I’m disapointed. I thought everyone knew where i lived and how to reach me”
I do believe you, on that one statement. When we meet we can have a very brief conversation of why you believe you are known by everyone. I’m pretty sure I already know why you think that, but just to confirm.
We can also discuss, very briefly, what your ethnic background might have to do with anything in this thread and why anyone might care. Also, what your opinion of airport security has to do with anything in this thread and why you think I care!
“since by using my real full name, I’ve gone 100% past most of you”
100% past what??? I’ll translate your meaning for you: CLEARLY, clearly you believe your opinion is correct and you are the self anointed righteous one solely BECAUSE you use your full name here. Everyone else here lack “conviction” of our opinions and are cowardly based solely because we don’t use our full names here.
“accept my invitation to coffe, and I’ll gladly give you all my real information…..hhhmmmmm, didn’t think so.”
You are of the delusion that you think I want to know anything about you that I don’t already know! I’m positive I already know all I want to know about you.
But to prove your consistency of wrongness I’ll meet you GBPL coffee shop 10 a.m. Friday June 18th. You’ll need to respond here prior. Why didn’t you have the courage of your conviction to provide your telephone #????
Oh my goodness!!! I had no idea I ranked among the world’s top terrorists, simply for being the owner of a particular breed of dog!
Paul, speaking only for myself, I don’t mind the airport security checks, in the least, makes me feel protected not put-out.
But, sleep easy, I don’t own a gun, I’m not a psychopath (unless owning a certain breed of dog counts!), I’ve never been convicted of a thing (okay, maybe a speeding ticket or two, but at least three decades ago!)and as for putting a face to this ‘wacko’, let me know when you’d like to meet for coffee, so you’ll be able to recognize me in a crowded airport next time….
And as usual, signing off with my real name,
-Maura
Foul mouthed and hateful WaWa? I think that’s exceptionally hilarious.
Maybe I should get a chalk board and cry more.
-T
Why, Paulo, I hope you had your defibrillator handy after that tirade!!
I’m sorry, I am going to have to rescind my previously sincere invitation, you frighten me. Almost as much as the psychotic pit bull owners frighten you.
I thought a reciprocal banter might open lines of communications amongst the separate sides. However, since you already know all you ever wanted or needed to know about me, I will not waste my time, or yours, on coffee.
Really, take a deep breath and relax! All this screaming and yelling is bad for the blood pressure…..
AAgain, have a happy and blessed day.
-Maura
“I hope you had your defibrillator handy after that tirade!!”
No tirade. Just pure truth. And you provide no evidence of your juvenile name calling supposed tirade. Because you can’t. Fact.
” am going to have to rescind my previously sincere invitation”
At least we’ve irrefutably proven who’s the real coward of conviction! We have truth.
“you frighten me.” Guaranteed, I don’t frighten you, physically. I already know your name address and phone number. The location is very public WITH security guards on duty!!! You may be afraid - afraid that you won’t dictate and control the conversation and that the reality of truth won’t remain hidden behind politically correct civility. And that fear would indeed be validated. Politically correct civility when confronted with delusional irrationality is to walk away and avoid confrontation. Incredibly enough, people avoiding you doesn’t mean you’re right.
“I thought a reciprocal banter might open lines of communications amongst the separate sides. ”
I have no idea what that sentence means. Utterly meanless. Both you and I can say what ever we want right here. You spew your deceipts deceptions and inherent dishonesty and I disagree with them. What’s the problem. Wide open.
“I will not waste my time, or yours, ”
Not an absolute waste of my time. Sometimes I believe it is necessary to stand up for truth and confront evil.
and you are psycho……. I don’t blame Maura for rescinding her offer for coffee!
Dear Paul have you ever owned a pitbull, or had a bad experience with one? Or are you one of those people (and im guessing yes)who has no life what so ever, and he decides to write things, and pick fights with people on blogs, simply because you have nothing better to do with your pathetic life? Dear sir please do everyone a favor, and take your computer and drop it out of your window, and then look in the help wanted section of the paper and try to find some meaning to your life other than making a fiasco on a local online blog. Oh and I do own a firearm- Have a wonderful day
Love you… you made my day!! Oh and my name is Grace Maschinski, proud daughter of Maura Maschinski, I live in Wisconsin, and I am a proud owner of a mixed breed dog adopted from an animal shelter. I believe in stricter punishment for irresponsible dog owners, I DO NOT believe in Breed Specific legislation, and I completely agree with Mr Marvin Shields! There, I think that about sums it up!
To Whom It May Concern;
I would like to send the author/site manager a personal email, however, the site is not recognizing my often-used personal log-in. Could you please advise a manner in which to reach the powers-that-be behind this site? It is of the utmost importance.
Thank you, in advance, and have a blessed day,
-Maura
p.s. my personal email is attached to this response, if that is more efficient.
hi maura, you can reach me at my gmail address ‘elginite’
Gracie!?! Be careful!! I am dead-serious when I say this man is un-hinged and dangerous!! Please, no more interaction until I can reach the blog owner……-Mom
>>Maura Wood Maschinski
says:
June 16, 2010 at 12:20 pm
“However, this will be last post and my last reading/viewing of the site.”<<
Irrefutably establishing she does not speak truth.
On her second post since her “last reading/viewing” ever: “Gracie!?! Be careful!! I am dead-serious when I say this man is un-hinged and dangerous!!”
If there is an unhinged dangerous deranged person running around you should telephone Gracie directly to let her know.
If you have ANY evidence of YOUR claim I’m unhinged and dangerous it is incumbant upon to provide evidence; something, anything!
As in most of what you say, you saying it doesn’t make it so.
If you have ANY evidence I’m dangerous or threatening to you, you need to contact the Elgin police department; immediately.
“I’m not a psychopath ”
Maybe not. But the scale is beginning to tip in that direction.
Stay tuned, folks. Truth will prevail.
Ok Mom, just one more thing, FYI to everyone, I was born and raised in Elgin, jsut recently moved to a city in which EVERY dog must be registered, BRILLIANT!
Dear Marvin, evidently you have no argument whatsoever on any subject whatsoever, given your inability to present one. Your demonstrated only position is juvenile name calling without any provided basis. Good for you. You didn’t say ANYTHING about me but certainly exposed yourself. Congrats.
“I do own a firearm”
What is your point? Care to elaborate! I bet you won’t. Must be some reasoning for saying it!
If I were Mario or Glibster I’d play the victim card now and whine to RS about lunatics and threats in a last ditch desperation attempt of getting anyone who disagrees with me exterminated off this site. But alas, I haven’t lost the argument, been exposed as deceptive deceitful or dishonest, and so I don’t have the need.
Nice guy that I am I’ll extend my invitation to meet to you, as well. Slight change of venue though. I’ll only meet with someone who’s only cogent statement is “I do own a firearm” inside the Elgin police station. No doubt you’re a self-diagnosed non-psychopath like Mario and maybe you’ve stayed at a Holiday Inn once too, but my jury is still out on your mental condition.
“Have a wonderful day”
Your preceding comments were clearly contradictory to your wish of me having a “wonderful day”. In my ever constant search for truth among ever present politically correct civil discourse laced with deceipt dishonesty and deception I will assume your last statement is an untruth. Am I spot on!
Have good day for the rest of humanity and get hit by a truck.
Dear Paulie,
So I waisted a few seconds of my life reading your post, and I do regret it. I did notice however that you never said that you had any experince with the subject, nor did you answer my question regarding the fact that you probably dont own a pitbull, or have ever had a bad experience with one? Paulie its a simple question, one that you failed to answer, mailny because you were too busy blowing smoke out of whel the place where the sun doesnt shine. Now I am curious why a 56 year old man, gets so worked up, about such a matter when he has had no experience regarding the issue at hand. Because if you did, im sure you would have said so by now. And if im juvenile for calling you out, and you cant handle a simple question; whel then maybe we should have a look in the mirror before we go any further than that.
Again I bid you good day,
and if I am to get hit by a truck for the sake of humanity, then whel I sincerely hope that you are driving it, because ya know paulie, the things that would happen to you in prison would be…whats the word karma.
Good day sir
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