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	<title>Comments on: Michael Noland on Budget Transparency</title>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49053</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,  I don't appreciate being called a name by you or anyone.  There is a Purgatorium in the elginite.org if you can't be civil.  Mike Noland stuck up for me that night and told me to stick to my guns because I have good ideas.

If I want to look into the camera and talk to the people I can do that.  My concern for using my toy poodle and the other dogs of Elgin as a revenue generator has helped keep the council from taxing our dogs.  

They could have used the pit bull incident as an excuse to tax all dogs but they know how much I am opposed and how I would remind all the voters before the election of who wanted to tax our dogs.

You are a much better person when you are helping the family of that soldier who had a bathroom that needed repairing.  I would urge you to do more of that type of service rather than trying to criticize me for singing against taxing our dogs with George Harrison's The Tax Man lines and looking out into the crowd and the camera.

Peace to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,  I don&#8217;t appreciate being called a name by you or anyone.  There is a Purgatorium in the elginite.org if you can&#8217;t be civil.  Mike Noland stuck up for me that night and told me to stick to my guns because I have good ideas.</p>
<p>If I want to look into the camera and talk to the people I can do that.  My concern for using my toy poodle and the other dogs of Elgin as a revenue generator has helped keep the council from taxing our dogs.  </p>
<p>They could have used the pit bull incident as an excuse to tax all dogs but they know how much I am opposed and how I would remind all the voters before the election of who wanted to tax our dogs.</p>
<p>You are a much better person when you are helping the family of that soldier who had a bathroom that needed repairing.  I would urge you to do more of that type of service rather than trying to criticize me for singing against taxing our dogs with George Harrison&#8217;s The Tax Man lines and looking out into the crowd and the camera.</p>
<p>Peace to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Sandor</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49049</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarence: I have finally gotten tired of you trotting out a long ago incident at a city council meeting without telling the full story. You might remember that for a period of time you attended council meetings , not to address the council on any issue, but to play to the TV cameras recording the meeting. You deliberately moved the podium to face the camera rather than the council,and greeted the audience, including those that would watch the replays, rather than speak to the council directly. On the evening in question, you proceeded to move the podium and sang to the audience a song expressing your displeasure with a certain ordinance. This behavior shows a repeated lack of respect for the institution of city government as well as your overwhelming need to feel important.
I did come up to you and told you to cut it out, to stop acting like a buffoon. In the future, tell the whole story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarence: I have finally gotten tired of you trotting out a long ago incident at a city council meeting without telling the full story. You might remember that for a period of time you attended council meetings , not to address the council on any issue, but to play to the TV cameras recording the meeting. You deliberately moved the podium to face the camera rather than the council,and greeted the audience, including those that would watch the replays, rather than speak to the council directly. On the evening in question, you proceeded to move the podium and sang to the audience a song expressing your displeasure with a certain ordinance. This behavior shows a repeated lack of respect for the institution of city government as well as your overwhelming need to feel important.<br />
I did come up to you and told you to cut it out, to stop acting like a buffoon. In the future, tell the whole story.</p>
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		<title>By: Boxcar</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49043</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxcar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also valid is the reason that some use their name for the rush of feeling popular, if for just a minute. Like seeing your name in lights.

Soon after, it becomes apparent that the content of the post is not the significant portion. Rather, it's the branding of the name that becomes important followed by the need to spout off the topic and focuis more on the writer than the topic.

I shamefully refer to it as the Oprah Syndrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also valid is the reason that some use their name for the rush of feeling popular, if for just a minute. Like seeing your name in lights.</p>
<p>Soon after, it becomes apparent that the content of the post is not the significant portion. Rather, it&#8217;s the branding of the name that becomes important followed by the need to spout off the topic and focuis more on the writer than the topic.</p>
<p>I shamefully refer to it as the Oprah Syndrome.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49042</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's in a name?  Is my opinion not valid because I stand behind a curtain and wish to be heard and not seen?  What if Woodward and Bernstein had the same philosophy as you?  Would Felt Sr. have come forward?  Sometimes the comments that need to be taken seriously are the ones that are anonymous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s in a name?  Is my opinion not valid because I stand behind a curtain and wish to be heard and not seen?  What if Woodward and Bernstein had the same philosophy as you?  Would Felt Sr. have come forward?  Sometimes the comments that need to be taken seriously are the ones that are anonymous.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49026</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would anyone like to explain why they don't back up their posts with their legal name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would anyone like to explain why they don&#8217;t back up their posts with their legal name?</p>
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		<title>By: Boxcar</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49020</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxcar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then 99% of this site isn't to be taken seriously?

Maybe 99% of this site doesn't have a starved ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then 99% of this site isn&#8217;t to be taken seriously?</p>
<p>Maybe 99% of this site doesn&#8217;t have a starved ego.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49018</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rm, I think what rs didn't say but what he might be implying is you might be close to going to the Purgatoreum.  My apologies if my analysis is flawed.

I don't agree with Mike's politics a lot of the time but I too like him as a person. 

Mike stuck up for me one time when Tom Sandor tried to muzzle me after a council meeting so to speak after I spoke at a council meeting taking the city council to task.  

Peace to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rm, I think what rs didn&#8217;t say but what he might be implying is you might be close to going to the Purgatoreum.  My apologies if my analysis is flawed.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with Mike&#8217;s politics a lot of the time but I too like him as a person. </p>
<p>Mike stuck up for me one time when Tom Sandor tried to muzzle me after a council meeting so to speak after I spoke at a council meeting taking the city council to task.  </p>
<p>Peace to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49017</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard to take anonymous comments seriously when the writer is not willing to back up their post with their real name in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to take anonymous comments seriously when the writer is not willing to back up their post with their real name in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49015</link>
		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rm, with all due respect, I've known Senator Noland for many years and I think your characterizations of him are inaccurate, over the top and really not the kind of comments we want on this site. By all means disagree with his politics, but the personal bashing is unnecessary. Your comments are most effective and persuasive when you stick to the facts and analysis at which you excel. I hope you can keep that in mind when you post in the future. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rm, with all due respect, I&#8217;ve known Senator Noland for many years and I think your characterizations of him are inaccurate, over the top and really not the kind of comments we want on this site. By all means disagree with his politics, but the personal bashing is unnecessary. Your comments are most effective and persuasive when you stick to the facts and analysis at which you excel. I hope you can keep that in mind when you post in the future. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: rm</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2010/02/15/michael-noland-on-budget-transparency/#comment-49014</link>
		<dc:creator>rm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upon reflection, I realized the above photo is much more than the typical Illinois Democratic party shot where three white men are smiling over the non-white poverty that fuels their political agenda.

This is one of the most historic photos in Elgin's history.  If Elgin has some kind of historical society, they really need this shot.  To understand its significance you have to know the man on the right, John Cullerton.  Cullerton is the living embodiment of the Chicago Machine.  White guy, Loyola lawyer practicing in all the clout areas of "government relations," zoning, licensing and real estate assessments, he also passes his time as a registered lobbyist.  All the basic activities commonly found among the Chicago-style "public servant."  But that's not all,...  Mr. Cullerton also maintains business relationships with State Sen. Jimmy DeLeo, who managed to avoid any hard time and got probation in the fallout from the Operation Greylord scandal (refresh your memory on that scandal if you are thinking of putting a Democrat on the Kane Co. judiciary).  You can almost feel the warm pleasure radiating from the shining faces of Mike Noland and Ed Schock at their good favor at falling within the presence of such a man. 

But the historical character of this photo does not lie in its showing the normally sullen and thuggish Noland with a smile.  It lies in capturing the moment when Mayor Ed Schock beamingly surrenders Elgin to the Chicago Machine's emissary.  Here we have the culmination of Ed's busy life and commitment to making Elgin just another Chicago "neighborhood" like Englewood, Pilsen, Humboldt Park...  Of course, Ed would graciously concede that he could not have done it alone and would generously point to all those names endorsing John G. Dalton and Michael Noland as vital to the project.  Let's just credit them all for meeting the Machine prerequsites.  Destroyed public schools? Check. Illegal alien sanctuary? Check. Huge unemployment? Check.  Massive, ethnically-divided non-white poverty?  Check.  Violent gang activity? Check.  Empty storefronts? Check.  All the pieces in place for Elgin to move from an independent American community to just another ghetto cog in the Chicago Machine.  And to think that the moment was recorded here on the Elginite blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upon reflection, I realized the above photo is much more than the typical Illinois Democratic party shot where three white men are smiling over the non-white poverty that fuels their political agenda.</p>
<p>This is one of the most historic photos in Elgin&#8217;s history.  If Elgin has some kind of historical society, they really need this shot.  To understand its significance you have to know the man on the right, John Cullerton.  Cullerton is the living embodiment of the Chicago Machine.  White guy, Loyola lawyer practicing in all the clout areas of &#8220;government relations,&#8221; zoning, licensing and real estate assessments, he also passes his time as a registered lobbyist.  All the basic activities commonly found among the Chicago-style &#8220;public servant.&#8221;  But that&#8217;s not all,&#8230;  Mr. Cullerton also maintains business relationships with State Sen. Jimmy DeLeo, who managed to avoid any hard time and got probation in the fallout from the Operation Greylord scandal (refresh your memory on that scandal if you are thinking of putting a Democrat on the Kane Co. judiciary).  You can almost feel the warm pleasure radiating from the shining faces of Mike Noland and Ed Schock at their good favor at falling within the presence of such a man. </p>
<p>But the historical character of this photo does not lie in its showing the normally sullen and thuggish Noland with a smile.  It lies in capturing the moment when Mayor Ed Schock beamingly surrenders Elgin to the Chicago Machine&#8217;s emissary.  Here we have the culmination of Ed&#8217;s busy life and commitment to making Elgin just another Chicago &#8220;neighborhood&#8221; like Englewood, Pilsen, Humboldt Park&#8230;  Of course, Ed would graciously concede that he could not have done it alone and would generously point to all those names endorsing John G. Dalton and Michael Noland as vital to the project.  Let&#8217;s just credit them all for meeting the Machine prerequsites.  Destroyed public schools? Check. Illegal alien sanctuary? Check. Huge unemployment? Check.  Massive, ethnically-divided non-white poverty?  Check.  Violent gang activity? Check.  Empty storefronts? Check.  All the pieces in place for Elgin to move from an independent American community to just another ghetto cog in the Chicago Machine.  And to think that the moment was recorded here on the Elginite blog.</p>
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