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	<title>Comments on: Mike Noland on H.B. 174</title>
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		<title>By: Darlene Bruns</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-49225</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene Bruns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At what point do we finally say NO to more taxes.   This will effect everyone but especially small businesses who utilize many of these services on a day to day basis.   I own an Interior Design Business.  My fees to my clients would be taxed.   Now I am sure you say, "if they could afford a designer, they can afford to pay the taxes".  However, every dollar that goes to something other than my fees, doesn't end up purchasing goods or additional services.   Those service fees I collect help me to pay a young single mom who helps me in my office.   Those fees are what keep me in business supporting, a workroom staff, painters, carpenters, paperhangers and many others.   So, then do I change the way I bill?   Instead of a design fee do I just overcharge them on products?   Because, many business will be looking for ways to skirt this tax.    This is just canabalizing the money in the marketplace, it will not create in my opinion any real net gain.   Please do not take any more of MY MONEY or MY CLIENTS MONEY away just to place it in the hands of one of the most INCOMPETENT STATE LESISLATORS in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what point do we finally say NO to more taxes.   This will effect everyone but especially small businesses who utilize many of these services on a day to day basis.   I own an Interior Design Business.  My fees to my clients would be taxed.   Now I am sure you say, &#8220;if they could afford a designer, they can afford to pay the taxes&#8221;.  However, every dollar that goes to something other than my fees, doesn&#8217;t end up purchasing goods or additional services.   Those service fees I collect help me to pay a young single mom who helps me in my office.   Those fees are what keep me in business supporting, a workroom staff, painters, carpenters, paperhangers and many others.   So, then do I change the way I bill?   Instead of a design fee do I just overcharge them on products?   Because, many business will be looking for ways to skirt this tax.    This is just canabalizing the money in the marketplace, it will not create in my opinion any real net gain.   Please do not take any more of MY MONEY or MY CLIENTS MONEY away just to place it in the hands of one of the most INCOMPETENT STATE LESISLATORS in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-48543</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I call him Tax Hike Mike, seeing how he earned THAT."

Good one.
Anyone with their hands in my pocket I call honey or thief. And I'm not calling Mike honey.

Anyone I'm paying the salary of should call me boss. And I'll call them whatever I please. I earned it. I'm entitled; given it's my money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I call him Tax Hike Mike, seeing how he earned THAT.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good one.<br />
Anyone with their hands in my pocket I call honey or thief. And I&#8217;m not calling Mike honey.</p>
<p>Anyone I&#8217;m paying the salary of should call me boss. And I&#8217;ll call them whatever I please. I earned it. I&#8217;m entitled; given it&#8217;s my money.</p>
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		<title>By: EI parent</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-48527</link>
		<dc:creator>EI parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can we trust what they do with the money once they get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can we trust what they do with the money once they get it?</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-47725</link>
		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anybody is wondering why I use "Mr." when I refer to elected politicians such as Mike Noland, I am just following the standard practice of major media publications, such as the New York Times. It is not meant to signify any disrespect. When I use someone's full name naked--or even just their last name, that again is standard practice. Nothing to fret about :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anybody is wondering why I use &#8220;Mr.&#8221; when I refer to elected politicians such as Mike Noland, I am just following the standard practice of major media publications, such as the New York Times. It is not meant to signify any disrespect. When I use someone&#8217;s full name naked&#8211;or even just their last name, that again is standard practice. Nothing to fret about :)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-47716</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"(who we should refer to as Senator, seeing how he earned it)"

I call him Tax Hike Mike, seeing how he earned THAT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(who we should refer to as Senator, seeing how he earned it)&#8221;</p>
<p>I call him Tax Hike Mike, seeing how he earned THAT.</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-47651</link>
		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, Erick, that it is a myth. And until something is done about this system, we cannot support a tax increase. It's simply insane. 

The top pensioner in the State of Illinois system makes $350,000 per year, and there are public school teachers making well over $200,000 per year.

http://www.championnews.net/article.php?sid=1103

And of course it's the public sector in general, not just those who work for state government who have luxurious pensions. In fact, I'm aware of a City of Elgin employee who retired because his pension incentivized that. It was more lucrative for him, he said, to retire, take his pension and get another job as a consultant. In his own words, it was a deal he could not refuse.

While we hear about this at the state level, we should be aware that it's also happening at the city level, and something needs to be done about that. The retirement age needs to be raised, the pensions capped, etc. They need to look into all the options, and I hope this new council does that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Erick, that it is a myth. And until something is done about this system, we cannot support a tax increase. It&#8217;s simply insane. </p>
<p>The top pensioner in the State of Illinois system makes $350,000 per year, and there are public school teachers making well over $200,000 per year.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.championnews.net/article.php?sid=1103" rel="nofollow">http://www.championnews.net/article.php?sid=1103</a></p>
<p>And of course it&#8217;s the public sector in general, not just those who work for state government who have luxurious pensions. In fact, I&#8217;m aware of a City of Elgin employee who retired because his pension incentivized that. It was more lucrative for him, he said, to retire, take his pension and get another job as a consultant. In his own words, it was a deal he could not refuse.</p>
<p>While we hear about this at the state level, we should be aware that it&#8217;s also happening at the city level, and something needs to be done about that. The retirement age needs to be raised, the pensions capped, etc. They need to look into all the options, and I hope this new council does that.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-47646</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have trouble finding any sympathy for state empolyees who work hard and only get a 3% cost of living raise spread out over three years.  How is the situation of a state employee any different than workers in the public sector.  There is a myth (more like an outright denial) among many state workers that they get the short end of the stick.  State employees have better job security, better benefits and in many cases higer pay for comperable jobs.  A pension that allows you to retire early and is based on waht are often the highest earning years, is a luxury item that disappeared in the public sector 20 years ago.  

Eliminate pensions for all state employees.  I have heard the argument that state employees are not eligible for social securtiy, fine.  If the state finds that it needs to pay higher salaries to workers to attract talent, fine.  It would still be cheaper than the costs of pensions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have trouble finding any sympathy for state empolyees who work hard and only get a 3% cost of living raise spread out over three years.  How is the situation of a state employee any different than workers in the public sector.  There is a myth (more like an outright denial) among many state workers that they get the short end of the stick.  State employees have better job security, better benefits and in many cases higer pay for comperable jobs.  A pension that allows you to retire early and is based on waht are often the highest earning years, is a luxury item that disappeared in the public sector 20 years ago.  </p>
<p>Eliminate pensions for all state employees.  I have heard the argument that state employees are not eligible for social securtiy, fine.  If the state finds that it needs to pay higher salaries to workers to attract talent, fine.  It would still be cheaper than the costs of pensions.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Nowak</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-47638</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Nowak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

It is wrong for someone making more money to be taxed higher just because they worked harder then someone else. The income tax should be abolished in the first place. Why should the government get its pound of flesh even before I get the money that I worker for! I support the idea of a national sales tax. Check out the book by Neal Boortz and Congressman John Linder "The Fair Tax Book"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John</p>
<p>It is wrong for someone making more money to be taxed higher just because they worked harder then someone else. The income tax should be abolished in the first place. Why should the government get its pound of flesh even before I get the money that I worker for! I support the idea of a national sales tax. Check out the book by Neal Boortz and Congressman John Linder &#8220;The Fair Tax Book&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Martin</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/07/07/mike-noland-on-hb-174/#comment-47637</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kelly for giving us a better idea about the situation.  I know that the State was very irresponsible in borrowing money from the pension fund and the repayment schedule is causing a lot of budget issues.  

I believe the State is now setting up a task force to give recommendations on reforming the Pension system.  You can bet they will be advising cuts rather than increases.  I would guess the new hires will be affected mostly.

At what age are you allowed to retire and draw your pension?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kelly for giving us a better idea about the situation.  I know that the State was very irresponsible in borrowing money from the pension fund and the repayment schedule is causing a lot of budget issues.  </p>
<p>I believe the State is now setting up a task force to give recommendations on reforming the Pension system.  You can bet they will be advising cuts rather than increases.  I would guess the new hires will be affected mostly.</p>
<p>At what age are you allowed to retire and draw your pension?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I take great issue with your version of events.  I was the one that had to pick up all the brochures he left lying around the building.  I was the one who argued with him for several minutes (without any profanity) to leave the polling area.  After he wouldn't budge, we had to call the police.  He did visit inside the building, but he then stuck around and insisted on greeting voters outside the front door.  There is an "electioneering free zone" around the polling area, which he did not understand or comply with.  We put up signs and tape to indicate where that zone is.

I did not hear any election judge use crude language with Mr. Noland.  Perhaps that happened outside while I was attending the voters.  

Second, we certainly did not threaten any latinos that night nor did we comment about illegal immigrants.  Did you really "see" all that during your 5 minutes of voting?  I was there for over 12 hours!  

As for his title, you're right that I should use it.  However, I'm still mad at him for his behavior so I won't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I take great issue with your version of events.  I was the one that had to pick up all the brochures he left lying around the building.  I was the one who argued with him for several minutes (without any profanity) to leave the polling area.  After he wouldn&#8217;t budge, we had to call the police.  He did visit inside the building, but he then stuck around and insisted on greeting voters outside the front door.  There is an &#8220;electioneering free zone&#8221; around the polling area, which he did not understand or comply with.  We put up signs and tape to indicate where that zone is.</p>
<p>I did not hear any election judge use crude language with Mr. Noland.  Perhaps that happened outside while I was attending the voters.  </p>
<p>Second, we certainly did not threaten any latinos that night nor did we comment about illegal immigrants.  Did you really &#8220;see&#8221; all that during your 5 minutes of voting?  I was there for over 12 hours!  </p>
<p>As for his title, you&#8217;re right that I should use it.  However, I&#8217;m still mad at him for his behavior so I won&#8217;t.</p>
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