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	<title>Comments on: Mike Warren elected councilman</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47047</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found it!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/05/magazine/05Immigration-t.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found it!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/05/magazine/05Immigration-t.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/05/magazine/05Immigration-t.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: UrIgnrant</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47044</link>
		<dc:creator>UrIgnrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Heaton will you &amp; Prigge go around checking every brown skinned body's ID?  That's where the problems begin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Heaton will you &amp; Prigge go around checking every brown skinned body&#8217;s ID?  That&#8217;s where the problems begin!</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47040</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common Sense Clarence Hayward’
   I had apologized for the miss spelling of your name, and am sorry again!

   For your information, the city was not going down in the 60’s as you say! The downtown was doing well along with the 2 movie theaters until Sears and JC Penny moved to Springhill Mall, and followed by the closing of other major stores (JS and Woolworths) in the late 70’s early 80’s! I was born in 1966 and remember what our downtown was like until I graduated! I use to go to the Grove and Crocker theaters with my parents and have a remembrance of all the people that walked around the downtown then! I was saddened when my parents couldn’t take me there anymore because the downtown was deteriorating when I was in my preteens! So don’t put blame on anyone of this town, put blame on modern malls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common Sense Clarence Hayward’<br />
   I had apologized for the miss spelling of your name, and am sorry again!</p>
<p>   For your information, the city was not going down in the 60’s as you say! The downtown was doing well along with the 2 movie theaters until Sears and JC Penny moved to Springhill Mall, and followed by the closing of other major stores (JS and Woolworths) in the late 70’s early 80’s! I was born in 1966 and remember what our downtown was like until I graduated! I use to go to the Grove and Crocker theaters with my parents and have a remembrance of all the people that walked around the downtown then! I was saddened when my parents couldn’t take me there anymore because the downtown was deteriorating when I was in my preteens! So don’t put blame on anyone of this town, put blame on modern malls!</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47031</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point.  I forgot in my post above that if the city looks at the distance for legal parking on a street they will realize there are less parking spots than at the present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point.  I forgot in my post above that if the city looks at the distance for legal parking on a street they will realize there are less parking spots than at the present.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47030</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too find this odd-even parking to be a costly burden on society.  From a safety viewpoint there might be some older streets that are not wide enough for a fire truck to get through if cars are on both sides.  If so I can understand having it for certain streets.  Otherwise from a better leaf pick up point of view it does not make common sense to have it year round or in the areas like my neighborhood where we have to bag our leaves.  There clearly needs to be exceptions if it goes city wide for people who do not have enough off street parking.  It is also a safety issue for citizens as woman might sometimes have to walk too far after finding a parking spot to get to their home and elderly might slip on the ice and snow especially if they have to walk on sidewalks that are in front of local merchants as I have noticed a lot of merchants refuse to shovel the sidewalk in front of their business.  If there had to be a compromise clearly having the parking ban not in force on week ends and legal no mail holidays would make common sense as leaves are not picked up on those days.  Look around at your street on a legal no mail holiday and ask yourself where will all the visiting relatives and friends park?  Will Grandpa slip on the ice walking a block to your house?  Will your wife be attacked under the cover of darkness walking a block after finally finding a parking place?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too find this odd-even parking to be a costly burden on society.  From a safety viewpoint there might be some older streets that are not wide enough for a fire truck to get through if cars are on both sides.  If so I can understand having it for certain streets.  Otherwise from a better leaf pick up point of view it does not make common sense to have it year round or in the areas like my neighborhood where we have to bag our leaves.  There clearly needs to be exceptions if it goes city wide for people who do not have enough off street parking.  It is also a safety issue for citizens as woman might sometimes have to walk too far after finding a parking spot to get to their home and elderly might slip on the ice and snow especially if they have to walk on sidewalks that are in front of local merchants as I have noticed a lot of merchants refuse to shovel the sidewalk in front of their business.  If there had to be a compromise clearly having the parking ban not in force on week ends and legal no mail holidays would make common sense as leaves are not picked up on those days.  Look around at your street on a legal no mail holiday and ask yourself where will all the visiting relatives and friends park?  Will Grandpa slip on the ice walking a block to your house?  Will your wife be attacked under the cover of darkness walking a block after finally finding a parking place?</p>
<p>Common Sense Clarence Hayward - The Taxpayer&#8217;s Watchdog</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47029</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boxcar, is your last name Heaton like Gee-N-Jay mistakenly replied above?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boxcar, is your last name Heaton like Gee-N-Jay mistakenly replied above?</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47028</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The city has been trying to revitalize the downtown since it started going down in the late 1960's with the box stores moving out.  It takes a realist to realize that market forces are going to determine the evolution of the downtown not Elgin throwing tax payer money at it and what they think it should be.

In hindsight the one thing the city could have possibly done to get something similar to a big box store downtown to draw many people to the core of the downtown would have been to work in conjunction with the library and build the new library on a sight in the core of the downtown.

The library some might think is downtown but to me it isn't in the core downtown and anyone who goes to it isn't going to be motivated to go to any other nearby shops in the core of the downtown.

If it had been built in the core of downtown we would have more traffic than even a big major box store would generate who would be able to get things at the other stores within walking distance shops nearby.

The library is a precious jewel in a relatively empty treasure chest called our downtown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city has been trying to revitalize the downtown since it started going down in the late 1960&#8217;s with the box stores moving out.  It takes a realist to realize that market forces are going to determine the evolution of the downtown not Elgin throwing tax payer money at it and what they think it should be.</p>
<p>In hindsight the one thing the city could have possibly done to get something similar to a big box store downtown to draw many people to the core of the downtown would have been to work in conjunction with the library and build the new library on a sight in the core of the downtown.</p>
<p>The library some might think is downtown but to me it isn&#8217;t in the core downtown and anyone who goes to it isn&#8217;t going to be motivated to go to any other nearby shops in the core of the downtown.</p>
<p>If it had been built in the core of downtown we would have more traffic than even a big major box store would generate who would be able to get things at the other stores within walking distance shops nearby.</p>
<p>The library is a precious jewel in a relatively empty treasure chest called our downtown.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47027</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt, very well said and I thank the elginite.org for allowing my comparison that Boxcar is like an animal that hides and only comes out in the cover of darkness.  Boxcar hides behind the darkness of his anonymous post name the same as Herguth.  I try to go by the Daily Herald's terms of service on their sight and I get a TOS violation if I try to say this.

Just one thing though.  I am not Clearance.  I am:

Common Sense Clarence Hayward - The Taxpayer's Watchdog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt, very well said and I thank the elginite.org for allowing my comparison that Boxcar is like an animal that hides and only comes out in the cover of darkness.  Boxcar hides behind the darkness of his anonymous post name the same as Herguth.  I try to go by the Daily Herald&#8217;s terms of service on their sight and I get a TOS violation if I try to say this.</p>
<p>Just one thing though.  I am not Clearance.  I am:</p>
<p>Common Sense Clarence Hayward - The Taxpayer&#8217;s Watchdog</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47026</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boxcar your right, who wants to drive out the legal Mexicans? As long as they don’t abuse the benefits given to them and use up the funds for others, they have been a good part of our economy! It is the Illegal immigrants that are hurting this town with tax evasion, etc… that we need to deal with and giving them citizenship without complying to this countries original rules to become a citizen does nothing but separate this countries unity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boxcar your right, who wants to drive out the legal Mexicans? As long as they don’t abuse the benefits given to them and use up the funds for others, they have been a good part of our economy! It is the Illegal immigrants that are hurting this town with tax evasion, etc… that we need to deal with and giving them citizenship without complying to this countries original rules to become a citizen does nothing but separate this countries unity!</p>
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		<title>By: klubgal</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/mike-warren-elected-councilman/#comment-47018</link>
		<dc:creator>klubgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL at Americanway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL at Americanway!</p>
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