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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-50425</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Common Sense Clarence Hayward's comment - there is always a need for fire safety programs!  Better to be prepared before the event and never need it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Common Sense Clarence Hayward&#8217;s comment - there is always a need for fire safety programs!  Better to be prepared before the event and never need it!</p>
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		<title>By: Terrebenthx</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-50015</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrebenthx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello hello

I'm new...Nice forum !

My name is Jonathan, 25 years old (French).

Nice to meet you !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello hello</p>
<p>I&#8217;m new&#8230;Nice forum !</p>
<p>My name is Jonathan, 25 years old (French).</p>
<p>Nice to meet you !</p>
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		<title>By: acaipowleet</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-48554</link>
		<dc:creator>acaipowleet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you guys think about the upcoming 2012?

Planet X Nibiru, if really exists and approaching, can be a big threat to the earth and its people. 
Michel de Nostredame predicted some kind of huge space collision that will occur around year 2000. 
Will the comet or asteroid really fall in the aegean sea (Greece) and huge tsunami will hit the mount Olympus (2917 metres high).
 If he is right and mayans as well, it looks like the end of the world is really close.

I think something is going on alrdy... so many earthquakes in the last year, h1n1,irak....

What do you guys think? Should we worry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you guys think about the upcoming 2012?</p>
<p>Planet X Nibiru, if really exists and approaching, can be a big threat to the earth and its people.<br />
Michel de Nostredame predicted some kind of huge space collision that will occur around year 2000.<br />
Will the comet or asteroid really fall in the aegean sea (Greece) and huge tsunami will hit the mount Olympus (2917 metres high).<br />
 If he is right and mayans as well, it looks like the end of the world is really close.</p>
<p>I think something is going on alrdy&#8230; so many earthquakes in the last year, h1n1,irak&#8230;.</p>
<p>What do you guys think? Should we worry?</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Reinert</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-48359</link>
		<dc:creator>David J. Reinert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't spend a quarter when you only have a dime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t spend a quarter when you only have a dime.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-47931</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point, boxcar.
If the problem has been an ongoing problem for many many years, city government payments to these homeowners to fix long existing problems UNFAIRLY increases their property values at my expense.
Evidently, Clarence must think City of Elgin has unlimited resources. $10,000 for homeowners in SW Elgin, another $10,000 for homeowners in NW Elgin, $10,000 for homeowners in Bluff City Blvd neigborhood, and $750,000 "gift" to senior homeowners. Did you get your $200 gift this week, Clarence?
Close the Zoo! Hell, we better be closing the parks and selling off the land to fund the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, boxcar.<br />
If the problem has been an ongoing problem for many many years, city government payments to these homeowners to fix long existing problems UNFAIRLY increases their property values at my expense.<br />
Evidently, Clarence must think City of Elgin has unlimited resources. $10,000 for homeowners in SW Elgin, another $10,000 for homeowners in NW Elgin, $10,000 for homeowners in Bluff City Blvd neigborhood, and $750,000 &#8220;gift&#8221; to senior homeowners. Did you get your $200 gift this week, Clarence?<br />
Close the Zoo! Hell, we better be closing the parks and selling off the land to fund the above.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-47924</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I have always felt since the first gifting of 200.00 that it was designed to get more votes at election time. I would bet that there are a lot more seniors with the time to go and vote than the Walmart working Mom with five kids."

I agree with you 100%.
Here is a defining moment for you, Clarence. In terms of ethics, integrity, principles and morals, is the vote for the $200 "gift" to seniors a correct vote?
I can image that this $200 senior "gift" is now the 3rd rail of Elgin politics. Any council member voting against it won't get re-elected. So they sell their souls to get re-elected. They don't do the right thing. They do the corrupt thing and sell their vote. I'd rather lose an election and keep my principles, integrity, ethics and morality intact. But then, I don't run for election. 
Which brings the question - does politics corrupt or are the corrupt the ones in politics? A lot of people claim the former. I never agreed with that and this Spring at the council candidate forums gave further evidence of the latter. It was clear to me that they were all running to primarily serve themselves.  They all had a degree of preening arrogance that they were special and rather than kissing my ass for my vote I should be kissing their ass for the privilege of voting for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have always felt since the first gifting of 200.00 that it was designed to get more votes at election time. I would bet that there are a lot more seniors with the time to go and vote than the Walmart working Mom with five kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with you 100%.<br />
Here is a defining moment for you, Clarence. In terms of ethics, integrity, principles and morals, is the vote for the $200 &#8220;gift&#8221; to seniors a correct vote?<br />
I can image that this $200 senior &#8220;gift&#8221; is now the 3rd rail of Elgin politics. Any council member voting against it won&#8217;t get re-elected. So they sell their souls to get re-elected. They don&#8217;t do the right thing. They do the corrupt thing and sell their vote. I&#8217;d rather lose an election and keep my principles, integrity, ethics and morality intact. But then, I don&#8217;t run for election.<br />
Which brings the question - does politics corrupt or are the corrupt the ones in politics? A lot of people claim the former. I never agreed with that and this Spring at the council candidate forums gave further evidence of the latter. It was clear to me that they were all running to primarily serve themselves.  They all had a degree of preening arrogance that they were special and rather than kissing my ass for my vote I should be kissing their ass for the privilege of voting for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-47922</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Regarding the northwest basement flooding a few years ago I did not have as much time back then and believe it or not I did not blog.

I came late to the blogging media as for some reason I had a misconception that it was a real hassle to sign up to be a blogger.  Like an elephant who thinks something is holding him back from escaping I for a long time did not venture into the blogging world.

This blogging is one of the best inventions for the common man and I would encourage readers that it is very easy to sign up for posting at any blog.

I am partial to people using their full name as it keeps you more civil if you back up your opinions with your real name but I do read anonymous posts as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Regarding the northwest basement flooding a few years ago I did not have as much time back then and believe it or not I did not blog.</p>
<p>I came late to the blogging media as for some reason I had a misconception that it was a real hassle to sign up to be a blogger.  Like an elephant who thinks something is holding him back from escaping I for a long time did not venture into the blogging world.</p>
<p>This blogging is one of the best inventions for the common man and I would encourage readers that it is very easy to sign up for posting at any blog.</p>
<p>I am partial to people using their full name as it keeps you more civil if you back up your opinions with your real name but I do read anonymous posts as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Boxcar</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-47921</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxcar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Why should Jim Johnston and others have to pay 50% of the 10,000 overhead sewer cost that might make his sewer keep from backing up."

Because Jim Johnston has lived in his house for decades and has put up with it for many of those years. He also is a realtor and he never thought about moving?

If he would have saved his $200 senior gift from the past 14 years he would have had $2800 to apply to his sewer issue. If he sells his house with the overhead it will increase his home's value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why should Jim Johnston and others have to pay 50% of the 10,000 overhead sewer cost that might make his sewer keep from backing up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because Jim Johnston has lived in his house for decades and has put up with it for many of those years. He also is a realtor and he never thought about moving?</p>
<p>If he would have saved his $200 senior gift from the past 14 years he would have had $2800 to apply to his sewer issue. If he sells his house with the overhead it will increase his home&#8217;s value.</p>
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		<title>By: Boxcar</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-47920</link>
		<dc:creator>Boxcar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Elimination of 4th of July long tradition of fireworks celebrating our country’s freedoms." (Was decided under the past council)

"Elimination of petting zoo and proposed elimination of 100 year traditional elk, deer, and bison at Lords Park. (Petting zoo closing decided before the new members were sworn in. CORRECT: This council may close the zoo)

"Elimination of free admission celebrating Elgin at FoxFirefest resulting in massive decrease in attendance." (A very SMART move. Kept the freeloaders, gangbangers and probably many illegals out of a city event. I applaud this move)

"Continuation of NEW tradition gifting seniors $200 costing city 3/4 of a million dollars because, in the infinite wisdom of the city council, seniors need (deserve?) $200 more than the poor and single mothers with 5 kids working at Walmart." (True, although Prigge expressed his displeasure at city staff not being able to add 750K into the local economy by making seniors use their gift only in Elgin this time around. Gilliam and Schock wanted it that way, also)


"Is anyone happy with the current direction of Elgin given the events over the past 4 months?"

I am, but not overwhelmingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Elimination of 4th of July long tradition of fireworks celebrating our country’s freedoms.&#8221; (Was decided under the past council)</p>
<p>&#8220;Elimination of petting zoo and proposed elimination of 100 year traditional elk, deer, and bison at Lords Park. (Petting zoo closing decided before the new members were sworn in. CORRECT: This council may close the zoo)</p>
<p>&#8220;Elimination of free admission celebrating Elgin at FoxFirefest resulting in massive decrease in attendance.&#8221; (A very SMART move. Kept the freeloaders, gangbangers and probably many illegals out of a city event. I applaud this move)</p>
<p>&#8220;Continuation of NEW tradition gifting seniors $200 costing city 3/4 of a million dollars because, in the infinite wisdom of the city council, seniors need (deserve?) $200 more than the poor and single mothers with 5 kids working at Walmart.&#8221; (True, although Prigge expressed his displeasure at city staff not being able to add 750K into the local economy by making seniors use their gift only in Elgin this time around. Gilliam and Schock wanted it that way, also)</p>
<p>&#8220;Is anyone happy with the current direction of Elgin given the events over the past 4 months?&#8221;</p>
<p>I am, but not overwhelmingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Clarence Hayward</title>
		<link>http://elginite.org/blog/2009/04/07/election-day-open-thread-2/#comment-47919</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Clarence Hayward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I know people who are affected by this.  I am closer to them than to the bison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I know people who are affected by this.  I am closer to them than to the bison.</p>
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