Comments on: John Prigge’s remarks at NENA forum http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:48:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Mark http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46626 Mark Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:14:52 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46626 Kathy M, We need to vote Robins in with Prigge, he was fantastic at the Thursday night forum with his ability to capture the group. His past experience with beauracracy and how he can bring it to the council will benefit us. I also learned from him that he owned his own limos during college and worked in sales for the same company forming new accounts. Mr. Prigge has also endorsed him on his website recently. Warren is already on the mayors coattails which we don't need more of. Kathy M, We need to vote Robins in with Prigge, he was fantastic at the Thursday night forum with his ability to capture the group. His past experience with beauracracy and how he can bring it to the council will benefit us. I also learned from him that he owned his own limos during college and worked in sales for the same company forming new accounts. Mr. Prigge has also endorsed him on his website recently. Warren is already on the mayors coattails which we don’t need more of.

]]> By: Kathy M http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46593 Kathy M Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:39:34 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46593 People! Get with the real issue of this speech- and that is Elgin's image. It is not good- get out of this town sometime and find out most neighboring communities are afraid of our "bad neighborhoods". I feel John Prigge is a candidate that "gets it". He doesn't bury his head in the sand about Elgin's image, and how that affects our property values, quality of life, etc. This "reality check" is sorely lacking on the city council right now. People! Get with the real issue of this speech- and that is Elgin’s image. It is not good- get out of this town sometime and find out most neighboring communities are afraid of our “bad neighborhoods”. I feel John Prigge is a candidate that “gets it”. He doesn’t bury his head in the sand about Elgin’s image, and how that affects our property values, quality of life, etc. This “reality check” is sorely lacking on the city council right now.

]]> By: Kurt http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46590 Kurt Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:40:50 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46590 Alright! This is it! I am sick and tired of the lashing!! You can’t believe what you read or hear, because of Reagan. Nothing that is written in newspapers, the internet, or presented on TV or radio has to be backed with proof anymore! You have to have a person visual view or personal audio hearing to believe what is true! This I know to be true from personal viewing; Gangs are formed from all groups! Murder is caused by all groups! Blight is caused by all groups! Theft is caused by all groups! (I’m white and most bank robberies are caused by whites, and what about corporate bonuses lately ~car industry~ and ~AIG~ for starters) That hurt us more than anything!! No, I am not for illegal aliens! No, I am not for welfare! No, I am not for free medical! No, I am not for free schooling without putting back what was given! I am a third generation self-employed person of this community. I don’t make much money! I don’t sponge off of the community when I am going through bad times! When my wife was hospitalized for almost 6 months out of the year back in 2005, I didn’t make the community support me! I struggled and almost lost our home! I ended up humbling my self and took support that was thrust upon me from my church! I didn’t beg for it! I didn’t demand that it was owed to me! I wasn’t going to even accept it from my own church because of pride, until it was explained to me that I have given so much to the church both financially and physically that I am to be taken care of by the church as I have taken care of my church! It still comes down to the thought process! The biggest battle of these forums, are about illegal aliens! The problem is that people are tying illegal aliens with, what seems to be, all gang crimes and other personal crimes! We could get rid of all the illegal aliens and still have these crimes, whether gang related or not! Yes, illegal aliens are committing crimes! They are just not crimes that all of you are bashing each other about! Boxcar did bring up some of the more important crimes when he mention stolen ID’s, no DL’s and no insurances, which increase the average persons premiums to compensate for uninsured drivers, but even though they contribute to our sales tax both municipal and state, what about federal IRS tax to help support this country and grants that go back to municipals for the benefits that cater to the illegal aliens more than the citizens that fall through the cracks? Such as birthing of illegal alien’s children that at that moment become legal with illegal parents! This doesn’t even touch on the increase to the average consumer who has to pay more money on a product or even schooling to have everything written in both English and Spanish. If you look at it in a green view – how many trees are killed and extra ink that we use to have things printed twice? All the other immigrants that come to this country learn English, why are we catering to the Spanish? The Tower of Babel doesn’t apply in this situation! That was a city that felt they were so superior they could build a tower to the heavens and didn’t need any outsiders to be part of their community. That’s why God split them and gave them multiple languages! This seams to be backwards to that! The infrastructure is going down and multiple languages are being enforced! You can now call it what you want!! My main issue is safety! I have houses in my neighborhood that have illegal aliens hiding in the basements, and have been known to have over crowding of family members to where they are using hot plates in the bedrooms to cook their meals of which is very unsafe. Our city’s council has been so busy with beautification of our town that they have had to cut cost on our police and fire dept. Do you know that our council would prefer to pay our firemen over time and have them work beyond their physical capability to cover the hours needed, then hire a few more firemen to insure our firemen are at full strength to endure their full duty time? Also, you might not think so, our city has allowed the growth of our city to increase so much, but they won’t increase our law enforcement to cover the increase of territory. FYI The village of Gilberts, who wanted to remain small, had to build homes fast to increase their population to keep from being taken over by either Hampshire or Elgin! That to me is sad!! To me, that is city councils, both Hampshire and Elgin, that are greedy, ruthless and money hungry people! They don’t care about people and their rights! They just want property and the rights so they can be in partnership with developers to waste our money like they have done with the downtown properties! When you think about it, even before the economy problem, those condos downtown were never filled! Look at Kimball street condos after over a decade! Duh! Illegal aliens are a problem, but with that aside, there are other reasons we need a totally new council! Alright! This is it!
I am sick and tired of the lashing!!

You can’t believe what you read or hear, because of Reagan. Nothing that is written in newspapers, the internet, or presented on TV or radio has to be backed with proof anymore! You have to have a person visual view or personal audio hearing to believe what is true!

This I know to be true from personal viewing; Gangs are formed from all groups! Murder is caused by all groups! Blight is caused by all groups! Theft is caused by all groups! (I’m white and most bank robberies are caused by whites, and what about corporate bonuses lately ~car industry~ and ~AIG~ for starters) That hurt us more than anything!! No, I am not for illegal aliens! No, I am not for welfare! No, I am not for free medical! No, I am not for free schooling without putting back what was given!

I am a third generation self-employed person of this community. I don’t make much money! I don’t sponge off of the community when I am going through bad times! When my wife was hospitalized for almost 6 months out of the year back in 2005, I didn’t make the community support me! I struggled and almost lost our home! I ended up humbling my self and took support that was thrust upon me from my church! I didn’t beg for it! I didn’t demand that it was owed to me! I wasn’t going to even accept it from my own church because of pride, until it was explained to me that I have given so much to the church both financially and physically that I am to be taken care of by the church as I have taken care of my church! It still comes down to the thought process!

The biggest battle of these forums, are about illegal aliens! The problem is that people are tying illegal aliens with, what seems to be, all gang crimes and other personal crimes! We could get rid of all the illegal aliens and still have these crimes, whether gang related or not! Yes, illegal aliens are committing crimes! They are just not crimes that all of you are bashing each other about! Boxcar did bring up some of the more important crimes when he mention stolen ID’s, no DL’s and no insurances, which increase the average persons premiums to compensate for uninsured drivers, but even though they contribute to our sales tax both municipal and state, what about federal IRS tax to help support this country and grants that go back to municipals for the benefits that cater to the illegal aliens more than the citizens that fall through the cracks? Such as birthing of illegal alien’s children that at that moment become legal with illegal parents! This doesn’t even touch on the increase to the average consumer who has to pay more money on a product or even schooling to have everything written in both English and Spanish. If you look at it in a green view – how many trees are killed and extra ink that we use to have things printed twice? All the other immigrants that come to this country learn English, why are we catering to the Spanish? The Tower of Babel doesn’t apply in this situation! That was a city that felt they were so superior they could build a tower to the heavens and didn’t need any outsiders to be part of their community. That’s why God split them and gave them multiple languages! This seams to be backwards to that! The infrastructure is going down and multiple languages are being enforced! You can now call it what you want!!

My main issue is safety! I have houses in my neighborhood that have illegal aliens hiding in the basements, and have been known to have over crowding of family members to where they are using hot plates in the bedrooms to cook their meals of which is very unsafe.

Our city’s council has been so busy with beautification of our town that they have had to cut cost on our police and fire dept. Do you know that our council would prefer to pay our firemen over time and have them work beyond their physical capability to cover the hours needed, then hire a few more firemen to insure our firemen are at full strength to endure their full duty time? Also, you might not think so, our city has allowed the growth of our city to increase so much, but they won’t increase our law enforcement to cover the increase of territory. FYI The village of Gilberts, who wanted to remain small, had to build homes fast to increase their population to keep from being taken over by either Hampshire or Elgin! That to me is sad!! To me, that is city councils, both Hampshire and Elgin, that are greedy, ruthless and money hungry people! They don’t care about people and their rights! They just want property and the rights so they can be in partnership with developers to waste our money like they have done with the downtown properties! When you think about it, even before the economy problem, those condos downtown were never filled! Look at Kimball street condos after over a decade! Duh!

Illegal aliens are a problem, but with that aside, there are other reasons we need a totally new council!

]]> By: Jessica http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46586 Jessica Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:31:51 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46586 RS has opened the blog up to other bloggers...instead of vowing to never return, how about ask if you can post? I, for one, would love to see a diversity of opinions here. That is what would make it a true community forum. One viewpoint (that is the minority in Elgin, I'd say) regularly dominates the comments. Having multiple viewpoints presented would be rather nice, and perhaps keep many readers from being completely turned off from the blog. (I know others in "real life" who also see Elginite as an AFLA equivalent or mouthpiece and because of that do not read it regularly.) RS has opened the blog up to other bloggers…instead of vowing to never return, how about ask if you can post? I, for one, would love to see a diversity of opinions here. That is what would make it a true community forum.

One viewpoint (that is the minority in Elgin, I’d say) regularly dominates the comments. Having multiple viewpoints presented would be rather nice, and perhaps keep many readers from being completely turned off from the blog. (I know others in “real life” who also see Elginite as an AFLA equivalent or mouthpiece and because of that do not read it regularly.)

]]> By: Boxcar http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46580 Boxcar Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:42:01 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46580 "I think the only people that give it a bad rap are the people that trash it." Nope. It's the people who live it, breathe it, see it, PAY for it, smell it and read about it. It's everywhere. The talking about it happens AFTER it occurs. “I think the only people that give it a bad rap are the people that trash it.”

Nope. It’s the people who live it, breathe it, see it, PAY for it, smell it and read about it.

It’s everywhere. The talking about it happens AFTER it occurs.

]]> By: first and Last http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46579 first and Last Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:20:02 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46579 I will agree with gausthaus, this is my first and last. someone sent me the link to ck out. I lived in Westminster Ca. which is also known as Little Saigaon. It has the largest Vietnamese population. Entering the community is a large Gate that welcomes all guest written in Vietamenes. Everywhere you look you will see the signs, newspapers, government & civic info in Vietnamese/English not spanish. ( google it) I only lived a few minutes from Santa Ana. Old Santa Ana feels like your in Old Mexico. they kept that way for histroical purpose. We move to Elgin 8 years ago and love it. I think the only people that give it a bad rap are the people that trash it. Another thing, my brother was a English lit. teacher in South America back in the eighties. His students were mostly US citizens or British. Jobs(high paying) brought the parents there. All class were taught in english. He notice that most student did venture out into the community,they kept to themselves in their own little english speaking world. Some kids didn't care to learn spanish because they knew they would be back to the US soon. he said they would have 4th of July picnic on the school grounds with hot dogs and apple pie. Everyone dressed in red white and blue even the brits. He said it was one of the most patriotic experience. I think when you leave the comfort of your homeland you long for anything that feel familiar. just ask our kids in Iraq. Chao I will agree with gausthaus, this is my first and last. someone sent me the link to ck out. I lived in Westminster Ca. which is also known as Little Saigaon. It has the largest Vietnamese population. Entering the community is a large Gate that welcomes all guest written in Vietamenes. Everywhere you look you will see the signs, newspapers, government & civic info in Vietnamese/English not spanish. ( google it) I only lived a few minutes from Santa Ana. Old Santa Ana feels like your in Old Mexico. they kept that way for histroical purpose. We move to Elgin 8 years ago and love it. I think the only people that give it a bad rap are the people that trash it. Another thing, my brother was a English lit. teacher in South America back in the eighties. His students were mostly US citizens or British. Jobs(high paying) brought the parents there. All class were taught in english. He notice that most student did venture out into the community,they kept to themselves in their own little english speaking world. Some kids didn’t care to learn spanish because they knew they would be back to the US soon. he said they would have 4th of July picnic on the school grounds with hot dogs and apple pie. Everyone dressed in red white and blue even the brits. He said it was one of the most patriotic experience. I think when you leave the comfort of your homeland you long for anything that feel familiar. just ask our kids in Iraq.
Chao

]]> By: Alienrants http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46577 Alienrants Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:21:17 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46577 This might interest you, from Congressman Mark Krik: http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/il10_kirk/Deport_illegal_alien_gang_members.html Isn't Kirk GOP? Like Schock? Like Emi Morales? I can understand Pat Perez skipping an event like that, being a Democrat and all. But where were our elected Elgin leaders? You'd think they'd want to get behind anything anti-gang. Not a peep. Hint: You can't fix a problem if you continue to ignore it! That funny noise your car makes doesn't go away by itself. This might interest you, from Congressman Mark Krik:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/il10_kirk/Deport_illegal_alien_gang_members.html
Isn’t Kirk GOP? Like Schock? Like Emi Morales?
I can understand Pat Perez skipping an event like that, being a Democrat and all.
But where were our elected Elgin leaders? You’d think they’d want to get behind anything anti-gang.
Not a peep.
Hint: You can’t fix a problem if you continue to ignore it! That funny noise your car makes doesn’t go away by itself.

]]> By: Boxcar http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46569 Boxcar Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:32:15 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46569 "Illegals are not criminals" Wrong. They are. They broke into our country. Their reason for doing so is immaterial. Henceforth the word "illegal" is used. Many of them continue their crime spree by using stolen Soc. Security numbers, driving without a license and insurance, etc. Illegal fits perfectly. "these people are here to make good with their lives." Me, too! But when I have to pay for illegals draining the U.S. system, my life isn't so "good" anymore. Every burglar wants to "make good with their lives" by selling the items they steal from me so they can have their idea of a good life. Also, none of the illegals are on the run from their country at all, right? Sorry, I'm not buying it and I'm tired of paying for it in my increased hospital bills, taxes, poor school scores (U-46) and crime statistics. "to say that murders happen in Elgin because of them is absurd to the fullest!" I agree. Prigge didn't say that, though. He was talking about 4 out of 5 murders were gang-related. You didn't read his closing remarks. Try it. It's at the top of this page. "the east side (murder) was committed by a white male" White males can't be gang members? Now, who is pre-judging? The way I see it is that Prigge, Dunne and Robins want illegals out of Elgin to let some other town drag their feet and let their reputation be dragged down. Excuse me, but shouldn't all real Americans want illegal "anything" our of their town? “Illegals are not criminals”

Wrong. They are. They broke into our country. Their reason for doing so is immaterial. Henceforth the word “illegal” is used. Many of them continue their crime spree by using stolen Soc. Security numbers, driving without a license and insurance, etc. Illegal fits perfectly.

“these people are here to make good with their lives.”

Me, too! But when I have to pay for illegals draining the U.S. system, my life isn’t so “good” anymore. Every burglar wants to “make good with their lives” by selling the items they steal from me so they can have their idea of a good life. Also, none of the illegals are on the run from their country at all, right? Sorry, I’m not buying it and I’m tired of paying for it in my increased hospital bills, taxes, poor school scores (U-46) and crime statistics.

“to say that murders happen in Elgin because of them is absurd to the fullest!”

I agree. Prigge didn’t say that, though. He was talking about 4 out of 5 murders were gang-related. You didn’t read his closing remarks. Try it. It’s at the top of this page.

“the east side (murder) was committed by a white male”

White males can’t be gang members?

Now, who is pre-judging?

The way I see it is that Prigge, Dunne and Robins want illegals out of Elgin to let some other town drag their feet and let their reputation be dragged down. Excuse me, but shouldn’t all real Americans want illegal “anything” our of their town?

]]> By: Bring-back-the-old-Gausthaus http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46565 Bring-back-the-old-Gausthaus Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:57:42 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46565 This is my first time looking at this blog..and it will be my last. I am white and lived in Elgin's East Side all my life and married a Hispanic women who's parents came here illegaly(They are now legal). They are the hardest working,most honorable, and giving people I know. I love Elgin and want the best for it, but I truly believe that these people are here to make good with their lives. Illegals are not criminals and to say that murders happen in Elgin because of them is absurd to the fullest!This is a very ignorant comment made by someone that you want running our city council? Yes,Lets get at the ALL gang members, but lets be honest with ourselves and see that Illegals are not the only gangmembers (only a fraction)! BOXCAR: I read the papers and the last murder on the east side was committed by a white male-I have also read all your other comments posted by you and sickened. This is my first time looking at this blog..and it will be my last. I am white and lived in Elgin’s East Side all my life and married a Hispanic women who’s parents came here illegaly(They are now legal). They are the hardest working,most honorable, and giving people I know. I love Elgin and want the best for it, but I truly believe that these people are here to make good with their lives. Illegals are not criminals and to say that murders happen in Elgin because of them is absurd to the fullest!This is a very ignorant comment made by someone that you want running our city council? Yes,Lets get at the ALL gang members, but lets be honest with ourselves and see that Illegals are not the only gangmembers (only a fraction)! BOXCAR: I read the papers and the last murder on the east side was committed by a white male-I have also read all your other comments posted by you and sickened.

]]> By: Boxcar http://elginite.org/blog/2009/03/21/john-prigges-remarks-at-nena-forum/#comment-46562 Boxcar Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:36:53 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=1620#comment-46562 Gee: How do you know those murders were committed by citizens? One of those four is still on the run! Have you called the police to give them your knowledge or are you assuming? I'd like proof that citizens committed those murders. Gee:

How do you know those murders were committed by citizens? One of those four is still on the run! Have you called the police to give them your knowledge or are you assuming?

I’d like proof that citizens committed those murders.

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